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Terrorist Organizations or Criminal Cartels?

Michael Brown
Michael Brown
Director for Counter Narcotics Technology


In this episode, Michael speaks with Kevin Ofchus - a former Supervisory Special Agent with the U.S. DEA and is now CEO of Host Nation Perspectives of Southwest Asia, as well as Associate Fellow at Narrative Strategies.  His projects have covered a wide range of areas focused on countering Afghan insurgency and violent extremism via intelligence and counter-intelligence, threat finance, counter-terrorism, rule of law initiatives, and post-conflict stabilization.

This is part two of a two-part series with Kevin.

Join us as we delve into the growing problem of fentanyl production and distribution in Mexico.  We explore the current state of the epidemic and discuss the various opinions on whether these cartels should be designated as terrorist organizations.  We also examine the role of congressional action and political will in tackling this issue, and the need for a more robust international presence to combat the production and distribution of fentanyl.  This podcast is a must-listen for anyone interested in understanding the complexities of the opioid crisis and the challenges facing Mexico as it attempts to address the problem.

Key topics: 

  • Fentanyl production in Mexico
  • Should cartels be classified as terrorist organizations?
  • Congressional action and political will in the fight against fentanyl


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